Tried & True's inaugural episode features a conversation between Francisco Cantú (The Line Becomes A River) and Reyna Grande (The Distance Between Us), about their experiences as a U.S. border patrol agent (Cantú) and undocumented immigrant (Grande), and how and why their writing about borders is a perennially hot topic. This interview was recorded on-site at the NonfictionNow Conference in Phoenix, AZ in Nov. 2018.