You Don't Say: 'We Could See The Love, And We Were Taught The Love'

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Columbia pastor Clyde Ruffin (left) spoke with fellow pastor and former school board member David Ballenger for this edition of KBIA's 'You Don't Say' series about the black experience in Columbia.
Hillary Tan

Rev. David Ballenger grew up in Columbia during the 1950s and 60s. He grew up in an African-American community in Columbia that has grown much larger than when he was a child, yet many neighborhood landmarks, family homes and businesses in the Sharp End district and on Third Street were destroyed through urban renewal.

Ballenger is a long-time Columbia resident, pastor, school board member, and grandparent, who currently serves as pastor of the historic Log Providence Baptist Church.

In this edition of the You Don’t Say conversation series, Ballenger speaks with friend and fellow pastor Clyde Ruffin. Ruffin is a former Columbia city councilmember, MU theater professor and pastor of the historic Second Missionary Baptist Church in downtown Columbia.

The two ministers sat at Ballenger’s kitchen table for a conversation about community and memories of a loving childhood, for this edition of “You Don’t Say.”

You Don’t Say is a special project commissioned by the City of Columbia’s bicentennial Como200 task force. It’s co-produced by the Sharp End Heritage Committee and KBIA.

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Janet Saidi is a producer and professor at KBIA and the Missouri School of Journalism.
Trevor Hook is a reporter, producer and morning anchor for KBIA 91.3 born and raised in New Franklin, Missouri. He graduated from the University of Missouri with both a Master's degree in Audio Journalism in 2020 and a Bachelor's degree in Convergence Journalism in 2018.
T’Keyah Thomas is a spoken word poet and community organizer based in Columbia, MO. In her role as announcer and producer for KBIA, you’re likely to catch TK on-air during the day, or moderating a panel on art and local history.
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